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D405 triggering

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  • MartyG

    Hi Jane Haslam  D401 is the camera circuit board inside the D405's casing.  The D405 therefore cannot be used with external triggering.

     

    In the RealSense Viewer, the D405 does though support the ability to generate a trigger from the camera to an external device once per frame when the 'Stereo Module' option Output Trigger Enabled is enabled.  The equivalent SDK script instruction for controlling its status would be RS2_OPTION_OUTPUT_TRIGGER_ENABLED

     

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  • Jane Haslam

    Thank-you  :-) 

     

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  • Timothy P Baxter Social

    Hi Marty,

    Since the sync connector is on V3 versions of the D4 Vision Processor board, is it possible to remove the D401 from the D405 enclosure and connect it to a D4 V3 board in order to feed it an external trigger signal?

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  • MartyG

    Hi Timothy P Baxter Social  Vision Processor D4 board versions typically work with certain RealSense models.  For example, the D450 depth camera board (the circuit board inside the D455) requires Vision Processor D4 V3 boards, whilst the V2 board is used with the D430 camera board to provide IMU capability like the cased D435i model has.  The V4 is designed for pairing only with the D401 camera board inside the D405.

    Furthermore, the D401 module's design is not suited for mounting by means other than in the D405 casing.

    The bottom of page 62 of the current March 2022 edition of the data sheet document for the 400 Series cameras states though that "The V1 ASIC (without IMU) is validated and supports all D400 depth modules".

    https://dev.intelrealsense.com/docs/intel-realsense-d400-series-product-family-datasheet

     

     

    Whilst you are free to experiment with non-recommended combinations of camera components, any faults or breakages that occur from doing so will be at your own risk, and opening the D405's casing would also invalidate its sales warranty.

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  • Timothy P Baxter Social

    Thank you for the information Marty,

    Are there plans to make the D401 module available to purchase on its own, similar to other camera module models?  Currently Digikey lists it as a non-stock product with an 8 week lead time.

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  • MartyG

    The design of the D401 module makes it more challenging to mount on its own than other depth module models.  Whilst I am not personally aware of plans to release the D401 module for purchase separately, Intel does not comment publicly on possible future RealSense product plans.

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  • MartyG

    I had further discussions with Intel about the D401 module.  I am permitted to say that the module will be released for sale separately, consistent with the listing on the Digi-Key website.  There is not a confirmed release date that I can provide at the time of writing this though.

    Regarding the possibility of switching the Vision Processor D4 V4 board for another D4 version such as V1, I am informed that this will not be possible due to the hardware design differences of the D4 V4 / D401 combination.

     

    The D405 information page at the link below provides a helpful disassembled view of the D405's internal structure.

    https://www.intelrealsense.com/depth-camera-d405/

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  • MartyG

    The Digi-Key website is now listing the D401 depth module as In Stock.

     https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/intel-realsense/82635DSD401/16265563

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  • Nathan Peter

    Interested in getting at the output trigger from D401... Datasheet mentions D401 not supporting the external trigger input, but I don't see any mention of the D401's output option. Does anyone know the connector / pin that relates to the RS2_OPTION_OUTPUT_TRIGGER_ENABLED setting?

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  • MartyG

    Hi Tim Rensen  The D4 V4 board used with the D401 depth module does not have a set of hardware sync pins and so inter_cam_sync_mode cannot be used with it. Without a pin set, trigger signal output cannot be tested by monitoring the sync pin (pin 5).

     

    Another model of D4 board with a sync pin set cannot be used with the D401 module.  It will only work with the pin-less D4 V4 model.

     

    Below is an image of what the pin set looks like on another RealSense model that is equipped with it.

     

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  • Tim Rensen

    Hi Marty, thanks for your swift reply. I deleted my comment because I have found the answer with https://support.intelrealsense.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/9425447647635--D405-Function-of-FSTROBE-signal-. Pin-25 of the 50 pin connector between D4 processor and camera module is FSTOBE or exposure signal and is exposed as TP2 just behind the 50-pin connector on the camera module. We are very space constrained so the D435 is too large. Probing TP2 we see that the signal is a 1.8V peak square wave with the duration of the exposure setting and frequency matching the camera fps. Will verify if the signal is in phase with the exposure tomorrow. 

    Tim

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  • MartyG

    Thanks very much for the update.  I look forward to your next report.  Good luck!

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  • Tim Rensen

    After some testing we have deduced that the FSTROBE signal overlaps the actual sensor exposure as expected - we used a digital isolator driving an LED and looked for the LED in the frames. The LED is visible and changes brightness with exposure setting, but disappears suddenly at 71us exposure or less suggesting there is likely a 70us delay between sensor exposure start and FSTROBE rising. Could be the other way round also, but for our purposes of triggering a strobe light this is fine.

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  • MartyG

    Thanks for the excellent level of detail in your updates.  :)

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